So, I wanted to go over three religious things today, I hope you enjoy this post. This is a discussion post so I really need other verses to back up what you believe, if you agree to say why, if you disagree say why, you can reply to my comments and other comments too, thanks! 😀
Did James & Paul Disagree On the Idea of “Good Works Getting You Into Heaven,” or How Important Those Works Were?
So, recently I have learned that a lot of people think that James and Paul disagreed on how important good works were. Let’s look!
“What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” ~James 2:14-17
Huh…faith without work is dead? Yes, that is what he is saying.
What does Paul say? Before I go on…I am not saying his thoughts on good verses can be put in one verse-because it can’t, but I will get one, for now, we will go into more detail as we go on.
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.” ~Romans 2:6-8
So, they both agree that good works are something, right? Yes.
You know what blows the idea that Paul and James disagree out of the water?
“But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” ~James 2:18
^That right there is showing this: James does not think that it is all about works, he is saying that with faith brings works, and if you do not share the truth or show it, and not just tell it, you don’t have it!
You can’t be saved by works.
Once you are saved, you show your faith through your works.
Was Paul Against or For Circumcision?
So, as you probably know this is a huge debate topic among Christians!
I believe that Paul believed in circumcision, but he knew that you are not saved by it.
Let’s go into Galatians…
So, a little background:
There was a circumcision party that basically said you can’t be saved and all that without being circumcised, then you are a Jew.
“Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you.” ~Galatians 5:2
Paul is saying that circumcision will not get you into Heaven, but then again you might ask…is he against it? Then I would say, no, he had Timothy circumcised! How do I know? This.
“Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.” ~Acts 16:3
You know why?? Timothy wanted to follow the Law in the Old Testament, and it says all males must be circumcised…cool, right? Timothy wanted to obey God, but it will not get you into Heaven.
So, Paul and Timothy were for it, but they knew it would not get you into Heaven.
The Judaism people, the “circumcision party” believe you had to be circumcised to become a Jew and have the belief they did.
Well, in Galatians Peter was eating with some Gentiles, the “Oral Law”
Wait…what? Oral Law? Law? What are you talking about?
^If that is you, read this:
Oral Law: The extra laws the Pharisees made, they got away from God’s law, and made a LOT more meals, like you can’t eat with the Gentiles.
Law: God’s Law, in the Torah-(first five books in the Bible is where it is found).
Note: The Oral Law was wrong, and Paul knew it. You can eat with the Gentiles, according to God, how else could you disciple people?? Right? Yes!
“When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.” ~Galatians 2:11-13
You see? Peter was eating with them, probably disciplining them, and then the circumcision party came and he got scared of them–he went with fear and hypocrisy rather than the truth, Paul corrected him.
That is all I have to say on this matter, as you discuss in the comments, I will talk with you, thanks! 🙂
What do you think about circumcision and all we talked about today?
Do you have any questions, or are you confused about what Paul said in this?
This is a discussion post, please discuss! 🙂